March 9, 2024

Illinois Gun Rights at Risk

Illinois Gun Rights at Risk

Welcome to another episode of The Hammer Drops podcast. In this episode, our host, Laoch, discusses an urgent and contentious topic rather than the usual political discourse. We dive into the details of a controversial and potentially infringing Illi...

Welcome to another episode of The Hammer Drops podcast. In this episode, our host, Laoch, discusses an urgent and contentious topic rather than the usual political discourse. We dive into the details of a controversial and potentially infringing Illinois gun law, HB 3239. This law sneaks its way through the legislative processes, threatening the rights of gun owners and laying the framework for a registry that carries risks of governmental overreach.

While the particulars of the bill might seem reasonable on the surface,Laoch dissects the string of requirements and consequences that follow, leading to a disturbing revelation. He also draws comparisons to a similar law in California that has hurt legal firearm owners due to the lack of resources and police response following substantial defunding in the recent past.

The implications of this new bill are far-reaching and potentially damaging, with projections of its passage not looking positive for gun rights supporters.Laoch urges listeners in Illinois to express their dissatisfaction and opposition to their local representatives before the bill goes on vote on March 12th. This conversation deep-dives into the threat posed by increased governmental control over personal rights—the intricate dance between citizens, their government, and their Constitutional rights forms the crux of this thought-provoking episode.

Regardless of where you stand on gun rights in the United States, this episode provides a passionate and in-depth analysis of a critical piece of proposed legislation. Hear Laoch's thoughts on the potential pitfalls and far-reaching consequences of HB 3239 in Illinois. Tune in now to understand the true impact of this bill beyond what's written on paper.

Chapters

00:15 - Introduction

00:56 - Impact of HB 3239

03:55 - Implications of the Bill

05:40 - Stringent Process for Gun Purchase

07:40 - Threat to Second Amendment Rights

11:29 - Comparison with California

13:07 - Government Control and Taxation

13:59 - Wake-up Call

14:45 - Aggravation with the Bill

15:26 - Consequences for Illinois Residents

15:50 - Action Against HB 3239

Transcript

1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:15,760 Music. 2 00:00:15,603 --> 00:00:19,983 Hey, welcome to another episode of The Hammer Drops. I'm your host, Layak. 3 00:00:20,643 --> 00:00:25,743 Today, on this Saturday episode of the show, we're not going to talk about Joe Biden. 4 00:00:25,843 --> 00:00:29,803 We're not going to talk about the fact that his State of the Union address was 5 00:00:29,803 --> 00:00:31,243 nothing but lies and propaganda. 6 00:00:31,643 --> 00:00:35,503 We won't even talk about the fact that he's trying to sit there and say that 7 00:00:35,503 --> 00:00:43,263 Trump had a 30% increase in murders under him when he was on his last year of presidency, 8 00:00:43,683 --> 00:00:49,543 which those numbers Joe Biden got from the CDC, and that raises questions there 9 00:00:49,543 --> 00:00:52,183 all on its own. We're not going to talk about that. 10 00:00:52,703 --> 00:00:55,603 And you're probably like, what? I'm not going to talk about it. 11 00:00:56,443 --> 00:00:59,723 This is what we're going to talk about today. Today, one of our listeners sent 12 00:00:59,723 --> 00:01:02,363 us over some information about HB 3239, 13 00:01:02,683 --> 00:01:08,503 which directly affects any legal gun owner in the state of Illinois or anybody 14 00:01:08,503 --> 00:01:12,703 that legally wants to be able to purchase a gun in the state of Illinois. 15 00:01:13,223 --> 00:01:19,863 It's got a lot of implications because it's essentially, with this bill, 16 00:01:20,043 --> 00:01:25,883 it's almost like it's going to take away the right to be able to own a firearm. 17 00:01:26,603 --> 00:01:33,903 And it's starting up its own registry, which we were all against for the longest time. 18 00:01:34,063 --> 00:01:37,763 Remember when Missouri tried to do that? that, you know, the FBI was trying 19 00:01:37,763 --> 00:01:40,043 to do a registry and they want to know where all the guns are at. 20 00:01:40,163 --> 00:01:42,923 Well, the state of Illinois, if this bill passes, guess what? 21 00:01:42,983 --> 00:01:46,663 The state of Illinois, whether you want to or not, they're going to know where 22 00:01:46,663 --> 00:01:49,063 your guns are. And we're going to get into that. 23 00:01:49,943 --> 00:01:54,083 Also, we're going to put, I'm going to point out some interesting things because 24 00:01:54,083 --> 00:02:03,083 another state has done this already and it's not going well for them either. 25 00:02:03,683 --> 00:02:08,983 So let's get into this bill. bill. Okay. And I'm going to read the whole kind 26 00:02:08,983 --> 00:02:10,803 of the summary of the, the bill. 27 00:02:11,787 --> 00:02:15,587 And what it is, and then we're going to get into the meanings behind it. 28 00:02:15,667 --> 00:02:19,167 But pay attention to what I'm reading. 29 00:02:19,307 --> 00:02:24,567 And if you want to read it yourself, just do a search HB 3239. 30 00:02:24,947 --> 00:02:27,227 You'll pop it up, and you can be able to read it. 31 00:02:27,627 --> 00:02:35,647 So basically, what this bill is saying, okay, it amends the FOID Act, the FOID Card Act. 32 00:02:35,647 --> 00:02:43,247 It provides that if an applicant is applying for or renewing a FOID card, 33 00:02:43,427 --> 00:02:47,567 he or she must submit evidence to the state of Illinois, 34 00:02:47,847 --> 00:02:53,047 state of Illinois State Police, that he or she completed at least eight hours 35 00:02:53,047 --> 00:02:58,227 of handgun safety training approved by the director of the state of the Illinois State Police. 36 00:02:58,707 --> 00:03:01,907 Now, this sounds all fine and dandy like you would agree to it, 37 00:03:01,987 --> 00:03:03,847 but you'll understand here. 38 00:03:03,847 --> 00:03:10,547 Okay, so it also provides that notwithstanding any other law to the contrary, 39 00:03:10,807 --> 00:03:13,807 each local law enforcement agency 40 00:03:13,807 --> 00:03:17,427 shall issue a firearm permit to an 41 00:03:17,427 --> 00:03:24,607 applicant who seeks the purchase of a firearm to verify the identity of the 42 00:03:24,607 --> 00:03:30,407 purchaser and shall complete a full criminal background check of the applicant 43 00:03:30,407 --> 00:03:34,847 that includes obtaining fingerprints from the prospective firearm purchaser. 44 00:03:35,047 --> 00:03:40,887 It also provides that each local law enforcement agency shall keep records of 45 00:03:40,887 --> 00:03:44,747 those permits and make them available to the Illinois State Police through law 46 00:03:44,747 --> 00:03:46,587 enforcement agency data systems. 47 00:03:47,047 --> 00:03:55,367 It also provides that the duration of the permit shall be 10 days after its issuance. 48 00:03:55,647 --> 00:04:01,147 Provides that local law enforcement agencies may deny a permit to purchase a 49 00:04:01,147 --> 00:04:07,307 firearm to an applicant of the agency and its discretion believes it is in the 50 00:04:07,307 --> 00:04:15,087 interest of public safety amends the criminal code of 2012 to make conforming changes. So. 51 00:04:16,135 --> 00:04:19,635 It may sound good, but here's what is actually going on. 52 00:04:20,535 --> 00:04:23,355 So for all those that live in Illinois that has a FOID card, 53 00:04:23,415 --> 00:04:28,635 which we're one of two states that you are required to have a FOID card. 54 00:04:28,855 --> 00:04:31,695 A FOID card, you have to do a background check. 55 00:04:31,815 --> 00:04:34,575 They do a background check on you, and as long as you pass everything, 56 00:04:34,875 --> 00:04:38,455 they issue you a FOID card to be able to buy a firearm. 57 00:04:39,095 --> 00:04:44,315 Well, now you got to go through that. And then if you want to buy a gun before 58 00:04:44,315 --> 00:04:48,015 you can even think about buying a gun, you have to show that you took that eight 59 00:04:48,015 --> 00:04:52,375 hour class, which sounds or, you know, when you renew, take the eight hour class. 60 00:04:52,375 --> 00:04:55,475 Sounds all fine and dandy until, lo and behold, 61 00:04:55,775 --> 00:05:02,875 the only places you can go for those said classes are at police stations, 62 00:05:03,135 --> 00:05:08,515 which they're already being deemed funded and overworked and don't have the time. 63 00:05:09,475 --> 00:05:14,015 So they're essentially going to eliminate the middle person for those classes. 64 00:05:14,535 --> 00:05:18,555 And we're going to get into that a little bit more. So then you're not going 65 00:05:18,555 --> 00:05:22,395 to be able to show that you took those eight hours. So then you're not going to get this permit. 66 00:05:22,495 --> 00:05:25,975 And if for some reason you are able to get this permit through going to your 67 00:05:25,975 --> 00:05:30,055 local police department, if for any reason, like said there, 68 00:05:30,155 --> 00:05:34,315 they think that it's not in the best interest, they can deny it. 69 00:05:34,715 --> 00:05:40,635 Or if they give one to you, you also now have to go through another background check. 70 00:05:40,635 --> 00:05:43,655 Check so that's two background checks before you 71 00:05:43,655 --> 00:05:47,075 can even walk into the doors of a 72 00:05:47,075 --> 00:05:50,475 gun store and purchase a gun at all 73 00:05:50,475 --> 00:05:55,115 because now you need that permit okay so say you make it that far you get the 74 00:05:55,115 --> 00:06:01,775 permit all that stuff you have 10 days to essentially shop around find what 75 00:06:01,775 --> 00:06:05,895 gun you want the gun store all that stuff so you have to do this within 10 days 76 00:06:05,895 --> 00:06:09,515 if you don't if he goes beyond Beyond 10 days, well, 77 00:06:09,615 --> 00:06:12,335 now you have to redo it all over again. So now you're back to square one. 78 00:06:13,315 --> 00:06:15,535 So now you find the gun, you're at the gun store. 79 00:06:16,715 --> 00:06:23,575 Now you have to go through yet another background check to be able to buy a gun. 80 00:06:24,095 --> 00:06:29,195 Once you go through that, the store is now required and you are now required 81 00:06:29,195 --> 00:06:34,735 to give that information to your local police department of what kind of gun you bought. 82 00:06:34,735 --> 00:06:41,235 Bought, all the registration information for that gun will now be in the system, 83 00:06:41,335 --> 00:06:45,455 which is what they wanted the whole time. But here's the kicker, folks. 84 00:06:45,935 --> 00:06:50,735 The state of California has a similar, well, actually the same thing going on over there. 85 00:06:51,215 --> 00:06:56,535 The problem with the state of California is they took out the middleman as well. 86 00:06:56,975 --> 00:07:01,115 So now the only place that you can go and get these said permits to be able 87 00:07:01,115 --> 00:07:07,655 to continue with the process of being able to buy a firearm is to find a police 88 00:07:07,655 --> 00:07:10,895 department that you can go take this class. 89 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:16,520 And be able to purchase a gun, be able to move on to that next level. 90 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:23,440 Problem is, like the state of California, they've been defunded, overworked. 91 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,480 They don't have the resources to be able to do these classes. 92 00:07:26,860 --> 00:07:32,760 So therefore, the law-abiding citizen that wants to buy a gun to be able to 93 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:40,180 protect themselves, go hunting, whatever, can now no longer do that because you can't get the class. 94 00:07:40,180 --> 00:07:43,000 This is just a way 95 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:47,000 for them to take away your your 96 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:52,300 constitutional right to have a firearm not only i mean the state of illinois 97 00:07:52,300 --> 00:07:56,900 is so bad we already have strict gun laws here but and now we have an assault 98 00:07:56,900 --> 00:08:01,980 rifle ban and all this other stuff i mean they're literally doing everything 99 00:08:01,980 --> 00:08:05,900 and anything that they can to take your second amendment rights away way. 100 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:11,600 So this bill goes up on March 12th at 4 p.m. 101 00:08:11,860 --> 00:08:16,240 For a vote. And chances are pretty good because everybody knows the state of 102 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,880 Illinois is so goddamn corrupted with J.B. Pritzker and all the rest of the 103 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,620 Democrats down there. This bill is going to pass. 104 00:08:23,100 --> 00:08:27,700 And I know there's a lot of law abiding citizens that have firearms right now 105 00:08:27,700 --> 00:08:35,200 that aren't going with the whole registry that the state state of Illinois currently wants. 106 00:08:35,340 --> 00:08:38,700 And this way, now they have to. 107 00:08:39,340 --> 00:08:43,880 You own a gun, it's going to be registered. So now your government, 108 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:49,540 and this is huge government overreach, is going to know everything that you own. 109 00:08:49,820 --> 00:08:54,340 So now if you own too many guns, guess what? You're going to have a knock on 110 00:08:54,340 --> 00:08:56,980 your door saying, we have a problem. 111 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,720 Or say if somebody at the police department doesn't don't agree with you. 112 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:07,080 They know that you're a conservative or whatever, that you don't support their 113 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,580 chief of police or the county sheriff. 114 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:18,180 They can deny you for any reason that they want and just label it as it's the 115 00:09:18,180 --> 00:09:21,940 best interest of public safety that you do not get a firearm, 116 00:09:22,140 --> 00:09:23,460 that you do not get this permit. 117 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:28,060 You see what's happening here, folks? Folks, as you're sleeping, 118 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:33,520 they are literally continuing to work on to take your gun rights. 119 00:09:34,020 --> 00:09:40,920 Now, if you've seen Illinois and the crime has how it's risen in Chicago, 120 00:09:41,220 --> 00:09:44,260 all around Chicago, the suburbs, all of it. 121 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,580 We have the migrant problem. 122 00:09:48,220 --> 00:09:55,540 They're causing nothing but crime and havoc and all that. That you have people 123 00:09:55,540 --> 00:10:01,280 in broad daylight being held up on the streets for all their stuff. 124 00:10:01,780 --> 00:10:04,960 And yet we have these strict gun laws. 125 00:10:05,260 --> 00:10:10,840 But if you're a criminal, it's okay. You're going to be fine. 126 00:10:12,130 --> 00:10:16,370 This is what happens, and this is why voting is so important, 127 00:10:16,790 --> 00:10:22,570 because who you vote for is why this is happening. 128 00:10:22,570 --> 00:10:28,530 So for those good people over there in West Chicago who decided that they wanted 129 00:10:28,530 --> 00:10:33,570 to elect Maura Hirschauer, which is a Democrat, 130 00:10:33,910 --> 00:10:41,210 her district office is at 946 Nelknor Boulevard, number 104, 131 00:10:41,550 --> 00:10:45,030 West Chicago, Illinois, 60185. 132 00:10:45,350 --> 00:10:52,230 Her phone number for her office is area code 331-465-9661. 133 00:10:52,570 --> 00:10:56,230 Make sure if you're listening to this and you live in the state of Illinois, 134 00:10:56,390 --> 00:11:02,690 that you call before March 12th to let her know your displeasure with this bill 135 00:11:02,690 --> 00:11:04,630 that she is trying to get passed. 136 00:11:05,090 --> 00:11:13,390 Make sure that you contact all your local representatives to express that you 137 00:11:13,390 --> 00:11:15,650 do not want this bill at all. 138 00:11:16,210 --> 00:11:19,810 Because if we don't, folks, this bill will pass. 139 00:11:20,510 --> 00:11:25,110 Our gun rights will be taken away very, very slowly. They will be just eroding 140 00:11:25,110 --> 00:11:26,550 in front of your very eyes. 141 00:11:26,650 --> 00:11:28,750 And there's not a fucking thing you can do about it. 142 00:11:29,550 --> 00:11:34,070 And here's the thing. Over in California, like I said, this is happening over there. 143 00:11:34,710 --> 00:11:40,070 They don't have the funding. They don't have the manpower to be able to, 144 00:11:40,070 --> 00:11:42,330 you know, for the police to be able to have these classes. 145 00:11:42,410 --> 00:11:44,810 And that is exactly what's happening here in Illinois. 146 00:11:45,650 --> 00:11:48,130 The whole defund the police thing, and now let's usher in this. 147 00:11:48,250 --> 00:11:49,610 You starting to connect the dots? 148 00:11:50,410 --> 00:11:57,010 I mean, they all say we're conspiracy theorists all along, ever since Joe Biden took fucking office. 149 00:11:57,610 --> 00:12:00,570 It's all conspiracy. It's all conspiracy theories. It's this and that, 150 00:12:00,670 --> 00:12:05,870 but every conspiracy theory or every theory that we have had has come to fruition, 151 00:12:06,110 --> 00:12:09,590 come to light, and this is no different. 152 00:12:10,190 --> 00:12:15,810 They've been actively trying to take our guns for a very long time to push their agenda. 153 00:12:16,110 --> 00:12:20,110 Do you realize the only thing that is protecting our sovereignty, 154 00:12:20,330 --> 00:12:25,170 our constitutional republic, is our right to bear arms, to protect ourselves 155 00:12:25,170 --> 00:12:30,550 against our government if we so have to? 156 00:12:31,150 --> 00:12:35,050 You know why there's no other country that has invaded the United States yet? 157 00:12:35,170 --> 00:12:38,410 It's because we have the right to own firearms. 158 00:12:38,790 --> 00:12:40,650 And they're literally taking it away. 159 00:12:41,170 --> 00:12:46,270 Gavin Newsom over there in California, Mr. Buddy Buddy with Xi Jinping over there in China. 160 00:12:46,790 --> 00:12:53,530 China would love for us not to have our gun rights because without our gun rights, 161 00:12:54,330 --> 00:12:55,470 anybody can come in and take over. 162 00:12:56,772 --> 00:12:59,632 That's reality, folks. That's what's happening right now. 163 00:13:00,532 --> 00:13:07,432 I urge you, if you voted Democrat, you might want to change your tune. Do your homework. 164 00:13:07,892 --> 00:13:14,192 Look at what they're doing. Everything that they do is to have more government 165 00:13:14,192 --> 00:13:17,232 control and take away from its citizens. 166 00:13:17,692 --> 00:13:22,672 I mean, hell, the state of Illinois, Governor Pritzker feels that taking 1% 167 00:13:22,672 --> 00:13:28,472 tax off the groceries is good for the Illinois people, 168 00:13:28,692 --> 00:13:33,312 whereas we're going to tax the shit out of you when you want to put gas in your 169 00:13:33,312 --> 00:13:38,672 car so you can drive to the grocery store or you can drive to work to make money. 170 00:13:39,352 --> 00:13:44,872 Not to mention, with the state of Illinois, heaven forbid if they owe you money 171 00:13:44,872 --> 00:13:47,452 in taxes, you'll never fucking see it. 172 00:13:47,512 --> 00:13:50,952 Or they'll take forever to give you your money and you have to jump through 173 00:13:50,952 --> 00:13:53,732 hoops each and every fucking time to get your money. 174 00:13:54,212 --> 00:13:58,672 Even though the taxation that they do is highly illegal. 175 00:13:59,612 --> 00:14:05,532 Wake up, folks. I hope that this episode, as though it may be shorter than my 176 00:14:05,532 --> 00:14:12,132 normal ones, I hope this episode opens your eyes to what they're actually trying to do. 177 00:14:12,472 --> 00:14:19,012 They're trying to disarm us for a reason. And everybody out there thinks it's a conspiracy. 178 00:14:19,592 --> 00:14:25,592 Joe Biden, the Democrat Party, do not have your best interests in mind. 179 00:14:26,552 --> 00:14:30,572 They don't. They want more control. They want you to depend on the government. 180 00:14:30,572 --> 00:14:35,352 Government whereas republicans and conservatives want less government and more 181 00:14:35,352 --> 00:14:43,632 control back to it the people which is how it should be but unfortunately too many people are easily. 182 00:14:45,772 --> 00:14:50,612 Yeah just easily i i can't even think of the word right now this because this 183 00:14:50,612 --> 00:14:56,952 has me just so fucking aggravated right now with with this bill because it's 184 00:14:56,952 --> 00:15:01,692 literally gonna put the a nail in the coffin to the great people of Illinois, 185 00:15:01,972 --> 00:15:07,452 especially if you ever want to own a gun here, but leave it up to J.B. 186 00:15:07,452 --> 00:15:12,852 Pritzker and the Democrats for many people leaving the state of Illinois. 187 00:15:13,312 --> 00:15:18,712 I guess U-Haul, Penske and all them are going to be making quite a bit of money 188 00:15:18,712 --> 00:15:24,072 here soon because not many people in Illinois, law-abiding gun owners are going 189 00:15:24,072 --> 00:15:26,312 to want to stay here because of this now. 190 00:15:26,312 --> 00:15:32,092 But don't you worry, folks, because with every family and every person that 191 00:15:32,092 --> 00:15:36,712 leaves the state of Illinois, you can count on your governor and the Democrats 192 00:15:36,712 --> 00:15:41,172 to bring in more illegal migrants with more sickness, 193 00:15:41,432 --> 00:15:44,532 more disease to take your place. 194 00:15:45,907 --> 00:15:50,107 Yes. So with that said, that's where I'm going to end it for this episode. 195 00:15:50,407 --> 00:15:58,127 Folks, if you're irate with this bill, go check it out on the Illinois General Assembly website. 196 00:15:59,207 --> 00:16:03,947 Again, it is Bill HB 3239. 197 00:16:04,427 --> 00:16:09,107 Make sure you call that representative up and call your representatives to let 198 00:16:09,107 --> 00:16:16,287 them know your displeasure of this bill. Bill, let your voice be heard. It needs to be heard now. 199 00:16:17,047 --> 00:16:20,287 With that, that's where we're going to call it for today, folks. 200 00:16:20,407 --> 00:16:22,307 I hope you guys have a great rest of your weekend. 201 00:16:22,507 --> 00:16:27,167 We'll be back Monday or Tuesday next week for another episode. 202 00:16:27,887 --> 00:16:32,847 And always remember, as I close out every show, close our borders, 203 00:16:33,047 --> 00:16:38,067 save America, fuck Ukraine, fuck Joe Biden. 204 00:16:38,067 --> 00:16:45,147 And for god damn it with this fuck jb pritzker and the democrats of illinois. 205 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:59,301 Music.